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@mathewi hi Mathew
would you say your symbolic calculator "thinks" ?
still it can solve problems that require humans lots of knowledge and thinking and we can find its results amazing! (and even beyond general comprehension)

I expect you to agree it doesn't "think". we have a word to approximate what it does: "compute"

now replace symbolic calculus with linguistic expressions. why would you say it "thinks"?

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quinta :ubuntu:

@mathewi we don't have a word akin "compute" to express what is does on sequences of parts of words.

it exhibits what, amaizingly and uncomprehensibly to us, appears to be linguistic prowess, maybe we could call it elocution, so we could say these machines loquate, a type of linguistic computation

we might assign a meaning to the symbolic calculation result and to the elocution.

but it's us knowing, not them

@quinta But the analysis of Claude showed that it was planning ahead, which is not something my calculator does 😀

@mathewi yes it does prepare for future steps when analyzing functions, your symbolic calculator does, although I would not call it "planning" which, again, entails comprehension

@mathewi ps. I would add "reported" analysis

@quinta I see your point, but how do you know that comprehension doesn't occur?

@mathewi and how can you rule out we are in one of infinite universes and in this same moment in another universe newton and Socrates are drinking a coffee? believing one or the other is an act of faith, as they cannot be proved
although many hints point to the fact that comprehension needs consciousness which needs a body. you know what hungry means because you've felt it, not because it is statistically close to the symbols codified 102 111 111 100 (octal)