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Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋<p>You could set up something like AppViewLite <a href="https://github.com/alnkesq/AppViewLite" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">github.com/alnkesq/AppViewLite</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> feeding from my relay as the input, and then people on two different self-hosted PDSes would be able to see and comment on each other's posts, bypassing Bluesky infra almost completely (except plc.directory).</p><p>Note, this currently uses ~200 kbit/s traffic and ~200 MB disk space, Munin stats here: <a href="https://relay.feeds.blue/munin/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">relay.feeds.blue/munin/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a></p>
Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋<p>I've got my own Bluesky relay now too :] <a href="https://relay.feeds.blue" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">relay.feeds.blue</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Ok, technically it's a not a full-network one - I added ~2000 known self-hosted PDSes there, but *without* Bluesky-run ones. Which means it has like 2 orders of magnitude less traffic than a full one… But if you're self-hosting a PDS, you should see your records streaming through there, if you either send a requestCrawl there or my PDS indexer has found you.</p><p><a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a></p>
Kuba Suder 🇵🇱🇺🇦<p>Everyone makes a relay these days, so I couldn't be worse 🙃 Looks like it's running ok: <a href="https://relay.feeds.blue" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">relay.feeds.blue</a> Feel free to use it, I intent to keep it running, it's not just for testing. Might be useful if someone were to, say, build an AppView in Ruby that only indexes self-hosted PDSes… 😎 <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23atproto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a><br><br>RE: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:oio4hkxaop4ao4wz2pp3f4cr/post/3lotoj375422i" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:oio4hkxaop4ao4wz2pp3f4cr/post/3lotoj375422i</a></p>
Kuba Suder 🇵🇱🇺🇦<p>Any publicly accessible relays I'm missing here? <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23atproto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a><br><br>RE: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:oio4hkxaop4ao4wz2pp3f4cr/post/3lotwyg5zkc2i" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:oio4hkxaop4ao4wz2pp3f4cr/post/3lotwyg5zkc2i</a></p>
LavX News<p>Decentralization in Action: ATProto Expands with Game Integration and Developer Grants</p><p>The ATProto ecosystem is witnessing a surge in decentralization efforts, enabling users to engage with Bluesky without relying on its core infrastructure. With innovative projects like the game at://2...</p><p><a href="https://news.lavx.hu/article/decentralization-in-action-atproto-expands-with-game-integration-and-developer-grants" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">news.lavx.hu/article/decentral</span><span class="invisible">ization-in-action-atproto-expands-with-game-integration-and-developer-grants</span></a></p><p><a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>news</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/Decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Decentralization</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://ioc.exchange/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a></p>
LavX News<p>Decentralization in Action: ATProto Expands with Game Integration and Developer Grants</p><p>The ATProto ecosystem is witnessing a surge in decentralization efforts, enabling users to engage with Bluesky without relying on its core infrastructure. With innovative projects like the game at://2...</p><p><a href="https://news.lavx.hu/article/decentralization-in-action-atproto-expands-with-game-integration-and-developer-grants" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">news.lavx.hu/article/decentral</span><span class="invisible">ization-in-action-atproto-expands-with-game-integration-and-developer-grants</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>news</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/Decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Decentralization</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a></p>
Fediverse Report<p>Bluesky Report 115 - This week's news for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a>:</p><p>- Lots of new independent atproto infrastructure, with new relays, appviews, and more<br>- research on blocking behaviour on Bluesky<br>- Graze is giving dev grants to accelerate the ecosystem</p><p><a href="https://fediversereport.com/bluesky-report-115/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">fediversereport.com/bluesky-re</span><span class="invisible">port-115/</span></a></p>
Ecologia Digital<p>"<a href="https://mato.social/tags/Decentralisation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Decentralisation</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://mato.social/tags/federation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>federation</span></a> are valued for their impact on <a href="https://mato.social/tags/powerstructures" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>powerstructures</span></a>, but there are multiple ways to structure power in <a href="https://mato.social/tags/opensocialnetworks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensocialnetworks</span></a>.<br>A quick summary:<br>The conceptual model of <a href="https://mato.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> resembles that of email: independent servers sending messages to each other. <br>The conceptual model of <a href="https://mato.social/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> resembles that of the web: independent sites publish data, and indexers aggregate this data into different views &amp; apps." <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://indieweb.social/@laurenshof" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>laurenshof</span></a></span> (2024)<br><a href="https://fediversereport.com/a-conceptual-model-of-atproto-and-activitypub/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">fediversereport.com/a-conceptu</span><span class="invisible">al-model-of-atproto-and-activitypub/</span></a></p>
youronlyone<p>Yeah.</p> <p>Although there were already discussions about it as early as 2005 (and earlier), Loic and company had been hosting a Web3 conference in France ("Le Web3") for a few years back then. (The real Web3, not the crypto-Web3. &lt; this is why many, if not most, Fediverse devs don't like crypto, the crypto enthusiasts stole "Web3")</p> <p>The discussions revolved around: <a href="https://fedia.io/tag/LinkedData" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LinkedData</a> <a href="https://fedia.io/tag/SemanticWeb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SemanticWeb</a> <a href="https://fedia.io/tag/SocialWeb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SocialWeb</a> and Federation. It was how Web2 was actually envisioned by Tim, father of WWW, to be a federated social network but big corps took over and Web2 became closed social networks.</p> <p>Lastly, the first approaches were through tech that existing networks were encouraged to implement. For example, few people remember the "Open Social" set of technologies. The SNS platforms who applied Open Social were Hi5 and Google+ to mention two.</p> <p>In addition, before the <a href="https://fedia.io/tag/Bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a> "Open Social"—to promote <a href="https://fedia.io/tag/ATproto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ATproto</a> —there already was an <a href="https://fedia.io/tag/OpenSocial" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSocial</a>. Before the current Social Web came to be, the label was already being used in the early 2000s for similar purposes but larger and more inclusive.</p> <p>(Note: trying to remember things from back then)</p>
Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋<p>It uses <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> records for repo info / issues / PRs etc. (only public repos right now) and for identity, and actual git content is just normal git, hosted separately. So you log in with a <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> or Bluesky-compatible account, create some repos and they're saved to your Bluesky PDS (and your Bluesky handle is used).</p><p><a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/tangled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tangled</span></a> <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/git" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>git</span></a> <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/github" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>github</span></a> <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a></p>
Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋<p>I've created mirrors of all my <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> related open source project repos on <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/Tangled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tangled</span></a>, a new GitHub-like platform for git collaboration based on <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> 🙂 </p><p><a href="https://tangled.sh/@mackuba.eu" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">tangled.sh/@mackuba.eu</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/git" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>git</span></a> <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/github" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>github</span></a></p>
Kye Fox<p>"Were the palantír decentralized?" longest thread in AT protocol history, replies and quotes disabled after 597,564 replies.</p><p><a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a></p>
Francis<p>Now that we have all the building blocks we should join efforts and create Europe-based ATproto infra blEUsky Ok let's rethink the name, yeah <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23atproto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#atproto</a> <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23eu" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#eu</a></p>
Ecologia Digital<p>"This essay concerns how we might think about <a href="https://mato.social/tags/censorship" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>censorship</span></a>, its mechanics, and how the <a href="https://mato.social/tags/ecosystems" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ecosystems</span></a> built around <a href="https://mato.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> and <a href="https://mato.social/tags/ATproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATproto</span></a> can implement and/or fight it.</p><p>…we need (at least) these things: ¶</p><p>- A service with no <a href="https://mato.social/tags/centralchokepoints" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralchokepoints</span></a>, but rather a large number of independent co-operating nodes.</p><p>- Accounts, and the follower relationships between them, are not tied to any <a href="https://mato.social/tags/singlenode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>singlenode</span></a>."<br><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://cosocial.ca/@timbray" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>timbray</span></a></span> <br><a href="https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2025/04/28/Censoring-Social-Media" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/20</span><span class="invisible">25/04/28/Censoring-Social-Media</span></a></p>
Anders Thoresson<p>Having to decide on an instance is a common criticism against <a href="https://thoresson.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a>, making it harder for new users to get started. </p><p>That’s also a common argument for why <a href="https://thoresson.social/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> is more frictionless for newcomers: Only place to signup. </p><p>But is that only because Bluesky at the moment isn’t decentralized in practice? Or is there something inherent in <a href="https://thoresson.social/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a> that will make the server decision less of a problem even in a highly decentralized Bluesky ecosystem?</p>
Kye Fox<p>Bluesky without Bluesky is real now <a href="https://deer.social/profile/bad-example.com/post/3loe7iy2gdc2c" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">deer.social/profile/bad-exampl</span><span class="invisible">e.com/post/3loe7iy2gdc2c</span></a></p><p>:blobfoxcomfysip: </p><p><a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> <a href="https://tech.lgbt/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a></p>
Sebastian (Someone)<p>This is actually a pretty huge opportunity for Europe to build its own Commons Social Media infrastructure with <a class="hashtag" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23AtProto" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AtProto</a> The components are almost all there. Non-MAGA Insta, TikTok, Facebook, etc. without having to start from scratch and with 0 users - here we go. <br><br>RE: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:ituoear7k6qx3smjfoxhufm4/post/3loaye6ybgzqp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:ituoear7k6qx3smjfoxhufm4/post/3loaye6ybgzqp</a></p>
Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋<p>Oh and Rudy from <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/Blacksky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Blacksky</span></a> just launched his own relay running on their own completely independent implementation written in <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/rustlang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>rustlang</span></a> (Bluesky's reference implementation is in Go): <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/rudyfraser.com/post/3lo7xk2szvs2b" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">bsky.app/profile/rudyfraser.co</span><span class="invisible">m/post/3lo7xk2szvs2b</span></a></p><p><a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/atproto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>atproto</span></a></p>
matt :kirby_yay:<p>Blacksky has officially deployed their on Relay powered by their own software! So much is happening! <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/rudyfraser.com/post/3lo7xk2szvs2b" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">bsky.app/profile/rudyfraser.co</span><span class="invisible">m/post/3lo7xk2szvs2b</span></a> <a href="https://social.lol/tags/Bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bluesky</span></a> <a href="https://social.lol/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> <a href="https://social.lol/tags/ATProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProtocol</span></a></p>
Kuba Suder • @mackuba.eu on 🦋<p>Running a full-network <a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/ATProto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ATProto</span></a> relay for $34 a month, by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@bnewbold" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bnewbold</span></a></span> <a href="https://whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net/3lo7a2a4qxg2l" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net/3lo7a2</span><span class="invisible">a4qxg2l</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://martianbase.net/tags/bluesky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bluesky</span></a></p>